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Shhh! New SWAC rules curtail Grambling marching band from playing

Published: Monday, September 22, 2008

Updated: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 14:09

"Play something!" shouted one angry fan at a recent game. Other fans agreed.

The World Famed Tiger Marching Band sat silent, unable to play to the fans' wishes.

The Southwestern Athletic Conference has started enforcing its rules regarding band performances. The rules were issued to the SWAC band directors on Aug. 19, according to a document obtained by The Gramblinite.

The document states that bands "shall not create any noise that prohibits a team from hearing its signals."

When an "offensive team breaks the ‘huddle' and approaches the line of scrimmage, the band shall cease playing." The bands also cannot use drum rolls or beats, cymbals clashing, horn sounds or any other kind of musical instrument while the ball is in play.

The penalties for violating the rules the first time result in a warning. The second violation results in a suspension for one game and a fine. The third violation results in a suspension from the league for the remainder of the season.

Duane Lewis, assistant commissioner of communications for the SWAC, says there has been a lot of "misinformation about the restrictiveness of the policies."

"It's not as restrictive as it appears to be. It's not limiting the band," he said in a telephone interview. "The most important part is that we don't the band to play while the offensive team is on the field. There cannot be noise piped in once the team breaks the huddle."

Lewis also mentioned that teams in the National Football League (NFL) did not have bands, so their players are able to hear the signals.

"It's all about enhancing the play on the field," Lewis said. "It's enhancing the entire experience."

Players have complained about the bands playing, often with the quarterback asking the band to be quiet. However, some fans have complained about the bands as well. One of those complaints was that the two bands would play at the same time, trying to blow out the other one.

The new rules prevent the bands from playing at the same time.

"Something is sacred about that," said Dr. Larry Pannell, director of the World Famed.

Pannell has always been a stickler on following the rules, rarely breaking them. Despite his efforts, he feels the fans' pain.

"We get criticized by Grambling's fans for not playing enough in the stands," he said. "The rules have been there. We don't make the rules; we abide by them."

The new rules aren't just irking the fans; it's also affecting band members as well.

"We can't give the people what they want," said Brian Wright, a saxophonist. "Without the band playing, it makes the game boring."

Many fans echoed that sentiment, booing the band for ending songs early or not playing.

"I'm mad and depressed," Wright added. "I'm depressed because all of our hard work is going down the drain. We can't showcase our talent."

Lewis, however, disagrees.

"There are many opportunities for the band to play during the game," he explained. "As soon as the play ends, the band can play. It's just structured specifically for when the offensive team breaks the huddle so they can hear the play. Everything else is pretty much the same."

Pannell said he wants to please the fans, but violating the rules makes everyone suffers.

"If we get kicked out for the season and can't play in the games, then I'm going to be the one being asked questions," he explained.

"I know our fans love and support us, but they have got to understand that there are some rules that we have to abide by that we don't agree with."

Darryl D. Smith wrote this article for The Gramblinite, the Grambling State University student newspaper, which originally published this article.

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Donald James
Sun Oct 12 2008 02:17
I played in the Southern University Marching Band and every since I was 2 years old i haven't missed a game yet or one Bayou Classic . Fans come to the game to see the football players and the bands its all one its not just about the football game and money, just like the football players come to show off there talents for scouts the band is there to support there teams, that keeps there spirits up if there down by 14 points or just seven points from what I see sometimes it takes the band to get the fans back into the game when the fans start leaving because they think that the game is over because there team is behind. I feel you will lose more fans than gain fans without entertainment. I enjoy going to the games for the football gamer and the band activities also no just to watch for hours of two teams going from one end of the field to the next.
Genius At Its Finest
Fri Sep 26 2008 16:25
You said the band is the sweet taste and is not needed, but I must ask: So you'd eat a steak just to eat and not because it tasted good? That's clearly what you are saying.
Old No. 64
Thu Sep 25 2008 18:04
As a former football player, it kills me that I would work all week, sweating, getting the mess knocked out of me and when my own band is playing when we break the huddle and I can't hear my own quarterback change the play, because the band is "jamming" in the stands. Most SWAC bands are very good about when to play and when not to play but there are some who just play.

The band is icing on the cake at games, the game is the meal. If the band sold tickets at $28 per and played in a stadium 12 times per year, without a football game for four hours, by mid-season you wouldn't have 2,000 people coming. If the football team played, charged $28 per without the band at 12 games I bet you would get at least 10,000 per game.

Solve this problem and put the band in the end zone like all other schools and only play during timeouts, only while the team is in the huddle, halftime and post game. "We don't get to show our talent," is a bunch of crap, the band plays the majority of the time and even in Mumford, the players and coaches can't hear during a timeout because the band is sitting behind the team blowing directly down on the field. Next time watch during a time out and how the SU team is in tight huddle because they can't hear coach Pete.

The band needs the game to showcase, but the game would still be played if the band didn't show up. And the last time I saw SportsCenter, I didn't see any band highlights, or pre-game band shows, or post season band bowl games or Top 25 weekly band rankings or former band members breaking down the halftime performances or Monday Night Band playing. I don't see a section in the newspaper call Band that comes out every day either. I love our band, they are a great addition to the game atmosphere, but the game is the steak and the band is the sweet taste that is left after the meal. Please it is about the game and the band should continue to enhance the game.

PS - Check the NCAA rulebook, this is not just a SWAC thing. Coaches are tired of burning timeouts because the players can get the snap off because of the band playing.

C H Brent
Tue Sep 23 2008 23:15
I would say to the SWAC's Asst. Commissioner of Communications (ACC), in your profession, perceptions are reality! To say “It’s not as restrictive as it appears to be. It’s not limiting the band,” seems quite close to "Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes? The ACC went on to say: “The most important part is that we don’t [want] the band to play while the offensive team is on the field". Unless I'm terribly wrong, an offensive team will be on the field approximately 98% of the time! That leaves quite a small window for the band to play.

I've reviewed the SWAC's new "administrative procedures" for bands. Although they may have been well intended, they reflect an uniformed or misinformed opinion by SWAC leadership. At best, it is a misguided attempt to correct a non existing problem; at worst, it speaks to a capriciousness which does not serve the best interest of member schools or their fans. It screams, rule by fiat! (I will do this BECAUSE I CAN!!)

I am hard pressed to recall a situation involving a band continuing to play after being warned by a game official. If and when such a warning is ignored, the appropriate action is to apply the penalty called for by NCAA rule. Where was the great outcry that drove the SWAC to take such unprecedented action? Citing the NFL as an exemplar for why such action was needed in a hollow argument. The NFL, and its atmosphere, is everything the college game and Black College football is NOT and should NOT aspire to become!

I am a season ticket holder. I drive 6.5 hours, one way, to attend EVERY home game of my team. I will not stop supporting my team, but this is another instance which reinforces my lack of support for current SWAC leadership.

How can SWAC leaders be so out of touch with their constituency? How can SWAC leaders knowingly neuter a marquee conference asset? They need only listen to commentators extol “the atmosphere of excitement” generated by the school band at HBCU and SWAC games especially.

It is a serious misjudgment, on their part, to believe they are just uplifting and enlightening a “backward” group of sycophants, who will go along with every decree. I believe the appropriate action for responsible fans is to let school leaders know, these new procedures unnecessarily restrict SWAC bands' ability to contribute to the unique essence and spirit of a SWAC game.

I suggest school newspapers, student groups, alumni associations and all other concerned groups/individuals take the time to contact their school leaders by letter, e-mail or petition and make it clear that these new procedures are unwarranted and unwelcomed. The ultimate result will be to render SWAC games “. . . clean as a Safeway chittlin”; pleasing to the eye but NO FLAVOR!

Ledell Johnson
Tue Sep 23 2008 16:22
Why are we in the swac? Yes, I used lower case letters to describe the SouthWestern Athletic Conference. The direction in which the conference is headed, has very little benefit to our athletic programs. We are losing focus of our fan base(restricting the bands). In recent years, the rulings of the swac have slowly moved in favor of the Alabama based schools. Why are the swac offices located Alabama? Why is the swac title game always held in Alabama? The schools with the larger fan bases are being ignored, Southern, Jackson State and Grambling. Rarely is the swac title decided without one or two of these schools. Bottomline, my understanding of the function of an athletic conference is to add value to the programs of its' member schools. Someone please explain the value they have added to Southern University?

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